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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 21, 2011 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

No. Nail hammered through my nose, the subject of eschatology.

And Jesus might be in as different place altogether then the boys (and girl) who made such kick butt music we all love. Here is an interesting second set.

http://tinyurl.com/3veczf9

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 21, 2011 7:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

I usually find it quite lame when Jesus comes up in the forum, if only because the discussion inevitably wanders down the same old political fault lines. Everyone always seems to find that Jesus is conveniently in line with their own political and moral compasses.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 22, 2011 9:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

No fault lines here. Too conservative for liberal churches, too liberal for conservative churches. And just taking the Q (Jesus direct quotes) as the foundation of faith. The walk ought to constantly challenge any bias you describe or your just spiritually masturbating. None of us has done that before.

As a whole Christianity is becoming much more African and Chinese, as it sadly dies in the West. I hope for a Fourth Great Awaking before we are hoisted on are arrogantly intellectual petard.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 23, 2011 5:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

I have no idea what "spiritually masturbating" even means, and don't think I want to.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 23, 2011 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

It is too simplistic to assume any 'fault lines'.
What does that even mean? Is Frank Luntz here?

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 24, 2011 5:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

"It is too simplistic to assume any 'fault lines'."

No it isn't.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 24, 2011 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

Then I urge you to destroy such constructs in your mind. They may appear to exist, but it's just an illusion. Which is greater, our common humanity or 'fault lines'. Placing groups in boxes leads to an ugly place.

And skuzzle, I value what you contribute here. I have no desire for this conversation to tar either one of us.

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Poster: splue Date: May 23, 2011 6:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

i used2 spirally *u-know*

now i jus make the veedios/same difference!!

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Poster: splue Date: May 24, 2011 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as lossless

i find it fascinating that jesus uses lame i rly had him more 4 the walk on wavs type of guy?????

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 21, 2011 7:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

I found Juan to be a much better carpenter than Jesus, but they're both hanging out in the parking lot at Home Depot.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: May 21, 2011 9:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

I have have seen some stupid threads on this forum,but this one is mind numbing between the inane quoting of Jesus and Gerrit Grahm,what is the point. 

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: May 24, 2011 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Rapture'

Now what kind of a guru are you, anyway?

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: May 21, 2011 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

Amen Brothers,
Greed in the name of God - the only thing that really pissed Jesus off. How often righteousness & SELFrighteousness get confused...

& lest we all forget: "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"
Mich 6:8

or, as Gerrit Graham said (in '2 Djinn')

"We all saw good luck on the other side
The door blew shut, but here's the deal
Dreams are lies, it's the dreaming that's real"

PS: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1995-05-29.fob.schoeps.unknown.larson.34270.flac16
"Reviewer: moscowocom -
Subject: True now as ever
At the end of "crowd" before the encore, Bobby says, "Did I hear someone say 'fuck the christian right?'"

I was at the show and remember that classic line. I hadn't ever heard one of the Dead say something so confrontational, yet completely understandable.

14 years later, look what the christian right has done to our country, and our world!

Jesus was a hippy, for Christ's sake! I think I've seen him walking the parking lot at a show before! The christian right needs to get a grip on reality, and compassion, before they'll ever resemble JC."

This post was modified by Jack o' Roses on 2011-05-21 18:21:00

This post was modified by Jack o' Roses on 2011-05-21 18:44:46

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 21, 2011 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

What is the "Christian Right"? Those that are overly legalistic? Those that import 21st century cultural norms and fold that into the Gospels?
The Great Commission speaks a universal message; man and woman, black and white and brown, ect., this place and that.
All stand equally before God, and one is not greater then another.

edit- And I can easily see Jesus handing out with hippies. He always liked a party.

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2011-05-21 21:55:55

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: May 21, 2011 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

I'm torn... xtians get a bad wrap these days by the over zealous atheists.... most aint that over reaching... but some are and they give entire religions, demographics, and political parties a bad reputation. Mixed bag like everything else...

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Poster: boltman Date: May 21, 2011 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

There is, or should be, a difference between a Christian and organized religion

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Poster: splue Date: May 22, 2011 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing

xactly alot of Christians do not act at all like those beeg formaldehyde faceplant artistes & they r grt people, i think micah is a rly nice guy 4 example

i think music is spiritual i haz dreams of a church in the future & its like a concert but people live there like a community, it goes on 4 acres & acres like a town but more freeform i'm married then & people have their own local govt & theyre happy rly extremely happy

i dont think its in america, th dream i mean

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Poster: utopian Date: May 22, 2011 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

My dad said,

"Christ was an alright guy, but
It all the Christians you have to worry about'

.....

Anyone ever read or listened to Christopher Hitchens on religion?
Good stuff

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 21, 2011 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

Indeed.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 21, 2011 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

I've been in every black hole
At the altar of the dark star
My body's now a begging bowl
That's begging to get back, begging to get back
To my heart
To the rhythm of my soul
To the rhythm of my unconsciousness
To the rhythm that yearns
To be released from control

I was punching in the numbers at the ATM machine
I could see in the reflection
A face staring back at me
At the moment of surrender
Of vision over visibility
I did not notice the passers-by
And they did not notice me

I was speeding on the subway
Through the stations of the cross
Every eye looking every other way
Counting down 'til the Pentecost

fuckin' drunken irishmen....

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 21, 2011 5:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

http://tinyurl.com/3cq6bxs

edit- O.K. A drinking game to play.

http://tinyurl.com/3zn6v5w



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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 21, 2011 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

It kills me to see their music used for a car commercial, but I hope they're getting paid...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 21, 2011 5:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

Broke up the Femmes. Which song/commercial?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 21, 2011 6:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2sV8PRK9hs

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: May 21, 2011 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're the Christian Wrong

and word

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: May 21, 2011 4:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're Just Plain Wrong

To clarify
I'm a Christian! & Happy for Christ, who as the example, shows us the Way. But sad for us in the US who act as if 'an eye for an eye' trumps 'turn the other cheek,' who claim Christ's name, but don't' realize that SIN = SELFISHNESS.

I guess that it appears to me that the "Christian Right" is neither Christ-like nor correct. I'm with Gandhi, who said, “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

Before that post I had just read an article that brought me to literal tears: http://www.harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080695 "The Christian paradox: How a faithful nation gets Jesus wrong." This article talks of how much time & effort is wasted on the Rapture nonsense

BTW, please pardon me (& Bobby) if offense was taken.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 21, 2011 5:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: There is no such thing as 'The Christian Right'- they're Just Plain Wrong

If your brother or sister goes astray you are commanded to help them, Jack. Jesus didn't say this person, not that. We didn't make the rules , they are just there.